Where are the wise old Women, Without their quiet voices,
Grandmothers Your comments are very important and welcome. Please email me and I'll add them to this page. gaianews@aol.com Thank you, Diva Joan Cartwright
The Fifth Council Gathering International Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers Black Hills, South Dakota June 12-22, 2007 Dear Relatives, Friends and Supporters of the Grandmothers’ Council: We have just returned from South Dakota planning the next grandmothers gathering in June, 2007, with Grandmother Beatrice and Rita and their families in the Black Hills. Each time the Grandmothers come together they focus their prayer with an intention for world peace and unity. In Dharamsala, Grandmother Tsering asked us to focus our prayer on softening the Chinese people’s hearts so that the Dalai Lama would be allowed to go home before he died. She felt that this would be the only way for the Tibetan people to return to their homeland. Grandmothers Beatrice and Rita would like us to focus our prayer on the idea that “We are again one people.” They have invited all to participate and attend the Sundance, which will be held in the last days. Many of you have expressed an interest in attending. We have just arranged some of the accommodations that should meet your needs. Proposed schedule: The grandmothers are continually trying to find a form where they can have the private time they need to develop their council and deepen their own relations with each other. In the two years the grandmothers have been meeting, they have only been together around 40 days. Much of that time is spent with the public. They love being with you. It has also been challenging for them to create a form that allows them this time with you that they so enjoy, and also time to develop the ground under the council that will hold their form firmly. They appreciate your dedication to the prayer for world peace that is in motion and your patience with this process as it continues to evolve. The grandmothers have created the agenda this time by scheduling a private council session before you arrive. This will ground the gathering before opening the doors to the public and lighting the sacred fire for world peace. The fire they start at the Council will be carried to the Sundance grounds and it will light the fire that will burn for the Sundance for the next 5 days. The agenda below defines the days you will need to plan for. A more complete agenda will be sent to you after you register. June, 2007 12th- Participants arrive at their hotel 13th, 14th , 15th --Public Grandmother Council We will also be honoring many tribal elders during this Public Council time and we are making plans for a fundraising benefit performance. Sundance Time: 16th- Sundance preparations We will be visiting some of the sacred grounds held holy by the Lakota peoples. The evening of the16th, the Grandmothers will open a prayer at a “Death to Meth” concert to raise awareness about the dangers of drug abuse for the young people. 17th- Tree Day 18th , 19th, 20th, 21st Sundance Closing 22nd - Participants leave for home To Register: Rebecca Rodriguez rebeccarodriguez333@yahoo.com 2158 Triple Peak Drive Canyon Lake, Texas USA 78133 (830) 964-5078 Please send in the enclosed registration form by April 15th Space is limited-- please register early to get the accommodations of your choice
Airline Arrangements: For your airline arrangements, we will be using the same travel agent as before. She has really been helpful in arranging flights that are economical. You will be flying into Rapid City, South Dakota. Alison Hawthorne Over The Rainbow Travel www.overtherainbowtravel.net CST#1012185-40 (415) 552-8321 (415) 431-3167 - fax Shuttle or Rental Car Arrangements: You can arrange for a transport by shuttle from Rapid City Airport to your hotel in Hot Springs by contacting Kevin at 605-381-7201. It will cost you $25 each way with a 3-person minimum on your van. You can also arrange for rental cars at the airport Please indicate on your registration form which way you’ll be traveling to Hot Springs and the day you will arrive. Costs: Public Council Days (June 13,14,15) Lunch and dinner: Your meals will be served at the Civic Center where the Council will be meeting. A $20 a day fee will be collected through registration to cover these costs. $60 total per person Tuition: $250 per person Total cost to register for the event through our registrar Rebecca is $310. Make checks payable to the Center for Sacred Studies
Room with breakfast & snacks (arriving June12, 13, 14, 15) Best Western Sundowner Inn 737 S. 6th Street Hot Springs, SD 57747 (605) 745 7378 For Reservations Call 1-877-664-7378 non-smoking double @ $44.50 per person (2 queen size beds) non-smoking double @ $44.50 per person (1 king size bed) non-smoking triple @ $31.34 per person (2 queen size beds) smoking double @ $44.50 per person (2 queen size beds) We have arranged group rates at the hotel. You will need to contact them directly to make your individual arrangements. Please let them know you are with the Center for Sacred Studies, The International Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers. Since there are several events in Hot Springs in June, we could only arrange for a certain number of rooms. Please register as soon as possible to assure your room. Sundance Time: The Sundance is traditionally offered through a donation basis only. Everyone comes to help serve the Sundancers and support them through their prayers, cleaning facilities, cooking, washing dishes, and whatever else may be needed by those sponsoring the event. Please indicate on your registration form how you would like to support. If you would like to make a donation towards the Sundance you can arrange that through Rebecca when you register. Meals during this time are prepared in a central outdoor kitchen site on the Sundance grounds. The eating area is located near the camping space. You will be able to eat there on June 16,17,18,19,20, and 21. There are also some good restaurants in this beautiful little town of Hot Springs. The native peoples of this land consider this holy land. There are natural hot springs in the area. We are gathering information on the local spas and will provide that for you at a later date. Please let us know if you would like to stay at the ceremonial grounds in the camping area during Sundance time. Indicate this on your registration form. If you are camping, you will need to bring your own tent and camping gear. If you prefer to stay in the hotel, you will need to change your accommodations to another hotel that is a bit closer to the ceremonial grounds. Rooms with breakfast during Sundance are at the Holiday Inn Express. Rooms can only be acquired here June 16th-22nd. There are a limited number available. Rooms are approximately $50 for a double occupancy. Please contact: Holiday Inn Express Email: gm.hsosd@wm.hiexpress Phone: 605 745 4411 Address: 1401 Highway 18, Hot Springs, So. Dakota Adopt-a-Grandmother: A grandmother fundraising challenge inspired in Mexico, is our Adopt-A-Grandmother program. A number of people have chosen specific grandmothers and pledged to donate the price of their airline tickets to South Dakota. In the past, some have donated for the grandmothers’ travel companions as well. If you would like to participate in this way, you can contact our office at 209 532-9048 or email us at info@grandmotherscouncil.com We invite you to consider this way of contributing to their cause. As a demonstration of unity and collaboration for world peace, we are calling on everyone to come forward and hold this sacred basket together. Adopt-a-Grandmother Funds need to be received by April 30th in order to make timely arrangements. If you have other ideas or know individuals who would want to help, please contact us. We are looking forward to this next step in the Grandmothers March for World Peace!! We will be coming to stand with the Sacred Pipe and pray for a world of unity!! Join us! Thank you for all of your prayers, inspiration and support. See you in the Black Hills! For the next seven generations and beyond, Jyoti & Ann Center for Sacred Studies PO Box 745 Sonora, CA 95370 209
532-9048
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Diva Joan Cartwright
Profound response from DINIZULU GENE TINNIE There is no innocence. There are no innocents. We are all in this. We have a whole nation to build from the ashes of devastation. Undue stress and pressure are everywhere, on all of us. A Grandfather's Wisdom An elderly Cherokee man was teaching his grandchildren about life. He said to them, "A fight is going on inside of me; it is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One wolf is fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resent-ment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other wolf is joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generos-ity, truth, compassion and faith. This same fight is going on inside you and inside every
other person too." JC NOTE: Fathers, Grandfathers, Uncles, Nephews, Brothers and Sons are needed more than they or we even know! It is time for the Masculine Principle to join with the Feminine Principle to heal the World and it's Children. One is not effective without the Other. Your comments are very important and welcome. Please email me and I'll add them to this page. gaianews@aol.com Thank you, Diva Joan Cartwright Your comments are very important and welcome. Please email me and I'll add them to this page. gaianews@aol.com Thank you, Diva Joan Cartwright WORDS WE SPEAK
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On Being A Single Grandmother Grandmothers of today are much younger than in past generations. Many are faced with having been single mothers and are now single grandmothers. Their grandchildren live in a world that requires them to have more material things than did those of past generations. Without fathers and grandfathers there to support them, grandmothers may experience undue stress and pressure.
Joan Cartwright - gaianews@aol.com
Mary,
Maybe that's the issue I have because I only knew my father's father and
we were not very close, though he was there in my life.
I truly believe that the balance between parents is important. But we
all have deficits in our families, whether both parents are there or
not.
Life is a puzzle and some of the pieces are just missing.
That's why it's so important to have self-love and self-knowledge, to
put the pieces of the Self in order.
Thanks for responding
Grateful Goddess Joan
wow so interesting...yes I am a single grandmother...but I am still friends with my ex and when ever I visit him (at the nursing home) regarding our children he gives me strength and guidance I will miss that when he is gone...and I understand the problem fully I loved my own grandfather very much and the contribution made by grandfathers on the spiritual level is immeasurable. do continue this study! Mary Joan, you are so humorous! Along with the humor, you are very wise person. Yes, we create our own reality (our own world); so make it a fun thing because you are the only one who has to live in the world you created within you. We live from within, not from without (smile). This is what I often have to tell myself whenever I fall into the trap of letting other people behaviors disrupt my state of equilibrium. Alice Ward Johnson
Dear Joan: I must first ask - why are you feeling stress and pressure in the role of grandmother? The entire genre surrounding being a grandmother is that of love, peace, and the ability to spoil them rotten and send them home to their mommas! (smiles) But seriously - I don't understand why being a single mother has any bearing on being a grandmother. I understand the wanting and the need for male companionship, but at 40+ am proud to say that I have learned the fine art of "dating". I do not feel my life is lacking because I don't have a husband. Personally, I have found that the friendships that I have made through dating have been much more rewarding and longer lasting than those relationships that I entered into because I thought I needed to find a husband or at least a "boyfriend". I revel in my role as "Nana". As far as my grandchildren are concerned, I am the greatest. Once you feel that kind of devotion from your grandchild mingled with the love that you return to your grandchild - - life is good! You ask where are the males connected to these children? Who the hell knows, but they are the ones missing and lacking, only they will have to answer for their actions or lack thereof. I understand your anger and concern for the future and all I can say to that is - Don't worry about what you cannot change. PS: Trust me, when you chastise your grands, they will continue to love you anyway. You will never be the enemy. Love Ya - Miss Ya
It started back in history when, the black man was taken from our sisters to carry their own. It happened when they were not well educated nor given great jobs to support their families. It also happened when most of our men are in jail just for being black. We need to try to help our brothers to help Themselves. Blame it on society, the system, whatever! Let’s try to check our men before they wreck themselves. Peace my sister. JH
Joan,
Joan, Man was created in the
image of God, but he fell short of his expectations. So, He created women
who would be, I guess you could say, a newer version or updated model. Man
may seem from his exterior form to be stronger than woman, but we as women
all know that's not true. That is why God made us to bear the children, to
nurture them. Man on the other hand was made to provide, food and shelter
and I guess in those times to procreate, which might explain the wondering
eye and unfaithfulness. Then came along the 60's, ahh women's Lib. We can do
it!!! We don't need man. So, man fought it, for a while, until he got tired
of being told "I can do it alone. I don't need you!!!" So, here we are left
holding the bag. We did it to ourselves!!! There is no longer balance in
Society and today's news is a perfect example to the results of a society
gone Mad without God in it!!! And that's all she wrote. Joan Joan, I'm not blaming any one
person in particular. So, there are no victims. I'm blaming our
forever changing societal norms. I'm sure you've read that if you want to
change a society you change it over time slowly so not to be felt. As far as
feeling like a victim. I don't take ownership of that; do you? I would
suggest taking another look at the circumstances. maybe there is
something you are missing. an opportunity to reach out to someone in a
special way. From every situation in life we learn. hopefully, and then in
turn we help someone later who might be passing through a similar problem.
Maybe humble yourself and ask the Lord what He wants to show you with this.
Why not get on your knees and ask His guidance. you know He's hanging
outright there next to you just waiting for you to ask Him. Go ahead Joan.
ask Him. don't you feel Him? He's right here, right now, as I write
this to you and as you read this. He's God, He's the one with all the
answers, not any of us amateurs at life. make lemonade from those Lemons.
I'll be praying for you, your daughter and grandchild. I didn't catch their
names. and always remember Jesus Loves you and so do I !!!
My Friend, I'm not a grandmother yet, but I feel you as a single Mom. Something tells me I'll feel you as a Grandmother too. Cynthia
Joan
no, joan. you are far from a chronic complainer. just part of the sad phenomena of grandmothers having to raise the grandchildren of missing and limping parents. you know all the sorry reasons. i've been through a similar situation albeit for a different set of reasons. it gets over and you'll be glad you were able to help. the most unfortunate part is that you don't get a chance to be perceived as the indulgent grandparent because you're forced of necessity into the "mean ol' scolding mama" whom we all resented at the time. then we cd run to grandma for succor. no such luck too many of these days.. keep up the good fight, literally.
it'll all come out in the wash and you'll all be better for it. and
just continue to enjoy as much as possible all the things you do so well.
Hey, Don't be upset because it could be soooo much worse. Suppose you had the total responsibility for your grands like so many other grandparents do. Just be thankful that they have their mother in their life. By the time my grandchild gets to the age yours are, I probably won't even know my name (or anybody else's for that matter) (-: Love you, Diane
My grands are 6 (girl), 9 (girl) and 10 (boy). The 10 year old is 5 feet tall weighs 115 pounds and wears a size 32 in slacks (men's sizes and men's prices), however none of them are cheap. The 10 year old lives with me and I make all decisions regarding him, his education and extracurricular activities because his mother lacks the maturity to do so. But even within adversity and feeling angry with his mother for not doing her job - I feel truly blessed that I was able to do this for him. Grands look at us differently - but is that so bad? Do you feel your grands are taking advantage? Or is it that they look at you as being on a level above the average human being? Betsy Dear Betsy, I believe each case may be different, however, we still get the baggage, as single grandmothers because their fathers and grandfathers just aren't around. The kids look at me as a banker with unlimited funds. It's just not reasonable because their mother has given them everything without demanding anything from them. Children must learn to earn their keep and things that they want. Joan Dear Joan, You had the choice to say no. You said they were pleasures not necessities. Ultimately none of us do what we don't want to do. They would still love you if you said "no", occasionally. Betsy Dear Betsy, At 3, we learn to STOP saying
"NO" Joan
Hey Joan, Dearest Gene, After reading your dissertation, which is more than welcome, I am even more assured that the voices of men needs to be heard on this very important issue. I believe the pressure I am feeling led me to start this discourse that may prove to be extremely enlightening to more people than we think! Love and Light, Joan
Studying the word of God will bring the inner peace needed to accept all that He wants you to experience. Be at peace with The Source. You’re worth more than you know. Meditate on your worth and know you’re a great creation on a magnificent journal. Enjoy! Laugh at all things that attempt to trouble your water. Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Colossians 3:12 The rod of correction imparts
wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother. Children's children are a
crown to the aged, and parents are the pride of their children. The righteous man leads a
blameless life; blessed are his children after him. Nita
YOU DO LIKE TO COMPLAIN, HOWEVER, CHILDREN = PRESSURE, FOR ANYONE. SORRY WE DON'T REALIZE THIS BEFORE WE HAVE THEM OR TAKE PART IN IT.
NOT SUGGESTING SUICIDE, HOWEVER, THE LEVEL OF STRESS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY HAS FAR SURPASSED ANYTHING WE THOUGHT OF. I AM SURE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW STUDIES ON THIS AND OTHER STRESS RELATED PHENOMENA.
DADDY IS FINE. I WILL TELL HIM YOU WERE THINKING OF HIM.
WHY DON'T WOMEN TAKE FURTHER STEPS TO STOP HAVING CHILDREN TO AVOID THIS PREDICAMENT. THERE ARE MANY ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTION.
ALL CHILDREN RESENT AUTHORITY, IF THEY ARE NOT USED TO RECEIVING DIRECTION. STOP TAKING THAT PERSONALLY. JOIN THE CLUB. MEMBERSHIP FEE IS $25.00. ONLY JOKING;I AM SURE YOU HAVE PAID YOUR DUES ALREADY, GRANDMA.
WHY DON'T YOU DO ONE? MAYBE PROCTOR & GAMBLE WILL PAY. Carlton Cartwright (Joan's brother)
Joan's responses to Carlton CC: YOU DO LIKETO COMPLAIN. JC: Nope, you are wrong, I don't LIKE it. I just DO it to keep from having a stroke. CC: Now, I understand! You cannot be thin skinned when it comes to dealing with them. JC: Point! But you can get skinned knees begginggrands to do the same stuff you begged your own kids to do. CC: [RE: Why are women left holding the bag, at every interval, when it comes to children they are given by men?] After all the pain, I understand. Teach girls to just do it for pleasure and forget about procreation. Unless they have the resources to be independent and make choices. JC: Now, this is a new perspective! CC: [RE: Where have all the fathers and grandfather's gone? [Our father is] distant from Bruce [my son], talks to Michael [your son] all the time.] JC: Yeah, but he has not seen his great grands, Robert, Anthony and Vernechia ina very LOOONG TIME and neither has their maternal grandfather, Peter. I don't think they've ever seen their paternal grandfathers, except for Anthony.
Hi Joan
Remember, we live in a society that a lot of grandmothers are 25-30 and don't have half the wisdom you have to pass on to their grandchildren. You're a blessing, even without a man. Jeffery Muhammad Jeffery, there are really grandmothers today who are 25?????? Thanks for your response Joan Absolutely!! That's one of the problems with teenage pregnancy;Children raising children. Girls are having children at 11 and 12 years old. They're maturing faster these days. My mother got pregnant with me when she was fourteen. She had me when she was fifteen.I had had a child at 15, she would have been a grandmother at30. Jeffery Question 1 No you are not a chronic complainer, just tired. When you reach a certain age you want peace and when you don't get it you complain because you really want the peace that you are suppose to have at our age. Question 2 yes you are not alone. WE NEED PEACE . Although we love our grandkids we want them to be grand kids and not extended kids. Question 3 either with another women or dead. Question 4 I wonder if its the type of men we choose Question 5 You are not the enemy you are the disciplinarian. You are not the enemy you are the one that is respected. They will appreciate you as they get older!!!
Dear Joan, Dear Gene, I agree with most of what you have said below, with one exception "Compared to those who went before us, we ain't got no problems." I think it's more difficult, today, because black
people THINK they are FREE and they are not, as yet! We must remove the VEIL
of self-denial and self-deceit!
SB: No studies that I know of -- other than from other grandmother's -- some of them just don't deal. JC: I may be crossing over to the JUST DON'T DEAL column! SB: If it will save your sanity, you better. Because they will continue to be who they are and you will be either "out to Lunch" or pushing up daisies. I hate to feel that there are no solutions because there are some out there who need HELP and wish they had a Grandmother like you. I am being called NANA by quite a few of them. But the consolation is, at the end of the day, I see them go home. I have a 4-year-old who thinks her stuff don't stink, talking about grown. WOW!!!! She can only visit from time to time. Just can't DEAL. I'm love most children, but some you can have. Or is it Me???? Patience, is not there anymore, especially with unruly children. There is a limitation on some grown ups ALSO. (:-).
Queen-mother-sistah-friend, Why do the sistahs lay down and have children in the
first place? Just do it for pleasure, not for procreation, until you
are mature MATURE ENOUGH TO BE THE BONDING, ENRICHING, FULFILLING, STRONG,
KNOWLEDGEABLE, LOVING, UNDERSTANDING, FLEXIBLE BUT NOT TOO FLEXIBLE, STABLE,
SECURE, EMBRACING, ENDEARING, ENLIGHTENING, WHOLE AND TOTAL PERSON PARENT OF
TWO PARENTS, raising another human being in this madness up in here,. if you
CANNOT meet that criteria, what's the point? Put a cap on it, do
it for doing it, get up wash off and keep on keepin on, you ain't bringing
no-one else up in here
Do I LOOK LIKE A GRANDMOTHER? NO AND I DON'T FEEL
LIKE ONE. Hey, put a cap on it buddy, until you can bring up that
babe (the first 21 years of your life!!!) the way you were brought up, I'm
outta here! I AM 60 NOW AND I LOVE EVERY MOMENT OF IT If my husband had not suffered from this crazy country's
Viet Nam War , I would have had a basket ball, no a baseball team!
Jamila, first, thanks for your thoughtful and thought-provoking response!
One thing, if we are all God/Goddess/All That Is
experiencing LIFE, then, God/Goddess/All chose, CHOSE to have these
lifetimes, having children young and in a single-parent environment to LEARN
LESSONS. Now, in this millennium, I believe God/Goddess/All is experiencing
having NO CHILDREN to see what Lessons there are to learn from that DESIRE.
Of course, it could mean the end of the HUMAN RACE but that may mean that
God/Goddess/All is choosing to move to a HIGHER LEVEL of existence and
experience. God/Goddess/All. I'm trying to keep my thoughts there.
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THE FACE OF FATHER'S DAY: MR. WILLIAM M. WESTON Just the first paragraph of this blog begs for a
response.
What is yours? In the Yoruba
culture, Obatala is the father of wisdom knowledge, and patience, among
other virtues, and sometimes he imprisons his people so that they have time
to think , address, accept, and acknowledge their wrongs in life. This is
the time for them to change their focus, to change their lives for the
betterment of self, family, country, the world. Lessons learned means
mistakes are not repeated. This is the lesson of life for without honoring,
acknowledging and changing our mistakes, we will not grow. It is no error
that we make mistakes, for whatever we need to change in our lives, comes to
us, right in our face, so that we have an opportunity to grow. * * * * *
Joan, Daniele * * * * * How do you find time for this wide array of sites, issues info?
I try but find myself a real loss. The system,
for most brothers is a JAIL.They are berated by everyone and often
lacking opportunities that even immigrants can take advantage of. Don't get me
started. This does not excuse dead beats or those who legitimately need to
be behind bars but it points to questions about how our society treats
fathers and people in general.
Today's grandparents aren't content to sit in
their rockers doing needlepoint or whittling wood. The modern grandparent
is healthier and more active. Traces Morrison's
theory of African American mothering as it is articulated in her novels,
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